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    Standard Roadrover Unit - GPS instruction cut all Radio/TV/DVD sound while navigating

    Hi all,

    I need some help with my unit... maybe someone has been throught this problem and could give me some tips.
    So I have a unit in my nissan tiida.. its model is like the picture below ..
    [Only members can see the link]

    the firmware installed is as follows below:
    Firmware: EN-PRIMA-ARM-SLC-V1.53
    MCU: 4.30na-7h7h6er
    Interface uses the D2280 software format ...

    My problem is that while I'm using functions like Radio/TV/DVD its sound is cutted off 100% while the GPS is giving direction istructions or alerts. Meanwhile, when i use the MP3 player and the GPS, the mp3 player still playing the music in background ( the volume is a bit lower ) but it still playing ... and the GPS directions are given as well ...
    Do you have any idea about how I could configure Radio/TV/DVD for work in the same way when I'm using the MP3 player ? I mean, Radio/TV/DVD sound in background, not cutting when the instruction are given?

    Is there any update for the MCU in my unit ?
    I've been googling about it for a long time with no functional solution ...


    In advance many thanks for your time.

    Rodrigo.

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    I have the same problem too

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    Really ? where are u from ?

    So, I'm trying to figure out how to solve it .... but its been hard to find a good forum or website with such information ...
    I've sent a mail to Roadrover support team about this <quote> problem </quote> but nobody answered my mail ... I'ts really a shame ...such great product in quality , with so poor software interface and software resources ...

    Does anyone tested if software from other brands works in this unit ? I mean try and run the software used by Aikon or generic interfaces that uses windows CE ?

    This problem is putting me down ... I'm getting nuts... I can't solve it! and seems to be some configuration either in Windows CE or update de MCU firmware .... Let's find a solution ... can anyone share your thoughts about this problem ? ...

    Share your knowledge and skills ........pls.

    Thanks... looking forward to hear about you soon. ...

    Cya
    Rodrigo

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    i have RR unit as well and exactly the same problem.

    as far as i know (info given by strados) this problem is unsolvable right now.

    actually for me it is not a big issue as i don't really like too much voice messages - only those which are necessary - only navigation (turn right, left, blabla) and speed cams.

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    I've sent a mail to Roadrover support team about this <quote> problem </quote> but nobody answered my mail ... I'ts really a shame ...such great product in quality , with so poor software interface and software resources ...
    Roadrover is a manufacturer and does not support worldwide customer requests. That's in responsiblity of all dealers. If you have a problem, please contact your dealer !

    the firmware installed is as follows below:
    Firmware: EN-PRIMA-ARM-SLC-V1.53
    MCU: 4.30na-7h7h6er
    Interface uses the D2280 software format ...

    My problem is that while I'm using functions like Radio/TV/DVD its sound is cutted off 100% while the GPS is giving direction istructions or alerts. Meanwhile, when i use the MP3 player and the GPS, the mp3 player still playing the music in background
    1) What you call "Firmware" is only the complete WinCE 6.0, nothing else.
    2) These units have a firmware named "MCU" but this is not visable on screen, it only controlles the hardware (display, all keys, DSP, ipod interface, CanBus interface)
    3) The "GUI" + Skin on this units is stored complete in folder D2280. The version of your GUI is visable in right top corner of mainscreen. I think it could be V1.11.4 or so.

    About your problem:
    Built in ASP (audio sound processor) has 2 stereo input an 3 mono input.
    - Radio, TV, DVD, are connected to stereo in 1.
    - The sound chip on Windows mainboard (gps sound, mp3 music, mp4 video) is connected to stereo in 2.
    The ASP always mute the stereo in 1, if sound is detected on stereo in 2 (gps directions). But it's not possible to set apart gps directions from mp3 music (same queue). That's why mp3 music will not be muted.

    It's not possible to change anything about the ASP funktions by software update (there is no software).

    The new RR units, named "i10" have a different ASP built in with much more inputs. On these units it can be setup if radio sound shell be muted or not.

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    Roadrover is a manufacturer and does not support worldwide customer requests. That's in responsiblity of all dealers. If you have a problem, please contact your dealer !



    1) What you call "Firmware" is only the complete WinCE 6.0, nothing else.
    2) These units have a firmware named "MCU" but this is not visable on screen, it only controlles the hardware (display, all keys, DSP, ipod interface, CanBus interface)
    3) The "GUI" + Skin on this units is stored complete in folder D2280. The version of your GUI is visable in right top corner of mainscreen. I think it could be V1.11.4 or so.

    About your problem:
    Built in ASP (audio sound processor) has 2 stereo input an 3 mono input.
    - Radio, TV, DVD, are connected to stereo in 1.
    - The sound chip on Windows mainboard (gps sound, mp3 music, mp4 video) is connected to stereo in 2.
    The ASP always mute the stereo in 1, if sound is detected on stereo in 2 (gps directions). But it's not possible to set apart gps directions from mp3 music (same queue). That's why mp3 music will not be muted.

    It's not possible to change anything about the ASP funktions by software update (there is no software).

    The new RR units, named "i10" have a different ASP built in with much more inputs. On these units it can be setup if radio sound shell be muted or not.
    Hi Strados,

    Thank you - well explained... I have two similar WINCA / AIKON Units. One older (8901), anoter newer (6250).
    6250 can play all together, 8901 does not. Today the installer said me that is not the software, and now I´m reading your explanation.

    I was just wondering if I cannot use the dual zone output to direct GPS sound to speakers, together with main sound output. What do you think ?

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    Zitat Zitat von leandrocn [Only members can see the link]
    I was just wondering if I cannot use the dual zone output to direct GPS sound to speakers, together with main sound output. What do you think ?
    On your Winca / Aikon dual zone only seperates DVD from all other sources. You can play a dvd video which is visible on headrest monitors and look to gps screen on main display simulatiously, nothing else.
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    Hi all,

    I need some help with my unit... maybe someone has been throught this problem and could give me some tips.
    So I have a unit in my nissan tiida.. its model is like the picture below ..
    [Only members can see the link]

    the firmware installed is as follows below:
    Firmware: EN-PRIMA-ARM-SLC-V1.53
    MCU: 4.30na-7h7h6er
    Interface uses the D2280 software format ...

    My problem is that while I'm using functions like Radio/TV/DVD its sound is cutted off 100% while the GPS is giving direction istructions or alerts. Meanwhile, when i use the MP3 player and the GPS, the mp3 player still playing the music in background ( the volume is a bit lower ) but it still playing ... and the GPS directions are given as well ...
    Do you have any idea about how I could configure Radio/TV/DVD for work in the same way when I'm using the MP3 player ? I mean, Radio/TV/DVD sound in background, not cutting when the instruction are given?

    Is there any update for the MCU in my unit ?
    I've been googling about it for a long time with no functional solution ...


    In advance many thanks for your time.

    Rodrigo.
    My unit has the same problem.
    Shell: 3.00.5
    OS:EN-PRIMA-128-V1.73
    MCU: D89HCRI8-SN-T1-V9.06
    GPS-Clarion-Primo 9.6.5.299

    Do you solve the problem? What is version GUI that are using?
    Tkx

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    My unit has the same problem.
    Shell: 3.00.5
    OS:EN-PRIMA-128-V1.73
    MCU: D89HCRI8-SN-T1-V9.06
    GPS-Clarion-Primo 9.6.5.299

    Do you solve the problem? What is version GUI that are using?
    This is NOT changeable, solvable !
    Sorry, but I already explained the reasons in Post#5 !?
    -> Your units have built in hardware (ASP) which cannot be changed by software updates. Not yet OS (WinCE) GUI nor MCU.
    =>> Bitte keine Supportanfragen per PN, dafür ist das Forum da !!!


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    Ok, but maybe in GPS has , for example, sys.txt, any setup that solve the problem. Because, the problem happens with only voice TTS. And, before I used another version Primo with voice TTS running correctly. So when GPS said instructions, the radio become muted, and Gps stopped the instruction, the radio sound become. Never Give Up!
    I´m trying something in the GPS, I will post if I find solution.
    Tkx.

    --- Update ---

    This is NOT changeable, solvable !
    Sorry, but I already explained the reasons in Post#5 !?
    -> Your units have built in hardware (ASP) which cannot be changed by software updates. Not yet OS (WinCE) GUI nor MCU.
    Sorry I ask here in this post, is there any way I can enable the equalizer
    built (some skins I've seen, for example RRUIeditor orange_black) in the RoadRover?

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    I ask here in this post, is there any way I can enable the equalizer
    Yes I understood what you are asking for. But in your unit there is no DSP built in which has an equalizer, so it can not be enabled.
    =>> Bitte keine Supportanfragen per PN, dafür ist das Forum da !!!


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    This is NOT changeable, solvable !
    Sorry, but I already explained the reasons in Post#5 !?
    -> Your units have built in hardware (ASP) which cannot be changed by software updates. Not yet OS (WinCE) GUI nor MCU.
    I solved a problem of sound, do not know if my problem was exactly what some complained.
    In my case, when occurred the instructions of GPS, the audio source that I was hearing was muted and not turned over.
    Then I acted in sys.txt, device, sound and clarionforyou folders that belong to the GPS navigator.
    In RoadRover unit upgrades done, but there was nothing wrong there.

    --- Update ---

    Tkx, I solved my problem, with changes in files GPS Navigator (Clarion - Primo 9.6.5.299)

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